{"id":73,"date":"2014-11-13T12:13:22","date_gmt":"2014-11-13T17:13:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rixtrema.com\/blog\/?p=73"},"modified":"2019-11-15T13:16:42","modified_gmt":"2019-11-15T18:16:42","slug":"what-does-riskalyze-risk-number-really-measure","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rixtrema.com\/blog\/what-does-riskalyze-risk-number-really-measure\/","title":{"rendered":"What does Riskalyze &#8216;Risk Number&#8217; really measure?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>What does Riskalyze Risk Number really measure? Disclosure\u00a0of calculation and methodology essential for meaningful discussion.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Riskalyze <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.aaronklein.com\/post\/102484561496\/get-a-calculator\">has responded<\/a><\/span> to our criticism of the math behind <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.riskalyze.com\/post\/53182351760\/turning-finras-directive-about-bond-market-risk-into-a\">their interest rate stress test<\/a>.<\/span> Unfortunately, the response does not address a single point of substance and seems rather personal. Our systems serve some of the largest asset managers in the world and top advisors in the US. We have published articles in scientific journals such as <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rixtrema.com\/articles\/When%20Swans%20Are%20Grey.pdf\">Journal of Risk Management in Financial Institutions<\/a>, <a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.palgrave-journals.com\/jam\/journal\/v9\/n1\/full\/jam20083a.html\">Journal of Asset Management<\/a><\/span> and <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/m.risk.net\/digital_assets\/5011\/jrm_v4n3a3.pdf\">Journal of Risk Model Validation<\/a>.<\/span> In the world of scientific risk management, where we come from, it is completely acceptable to question math of competitors and to receive substantive answers. Let\u2019s keep the discussion mature and stick to the facts.\u00a0Our original advisorperspectives.com piece was removed because the management of that publication did not want to be part of the continuing \u00a0argument. They have confirmed to us that they do not have any opinion on the validity of the points that we made. But information wants to be free , so you can<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> <a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"http:\/\/rixtrema.com\/articles\/Moderating%20Alarm%20on%20Interest%20Rate%20Risk.pdf\">read it here<\/a> <\/span>and be the judge.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Summarizing our original article, here are\u00a0few simple questions.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Does Riskalyze \u2018Risk Number\u2019 really measure risk? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The article states that a \u2018Risk Number\u2019 goes from 45 to 65 in an interest rate stress test. That is an increase of ~42%. The article then states that risk goes up 70%. Did the risk go up 42% or 70%? How do we explain this inconsistency? If a Risk Number does not accurately measure risk and should be replaced by some other measure, as the Riskalyze author does in this interpretation of stress test, then what does it do? What is the science behind these results? We could not find a single paper in an academic publication and would appreciate a reference.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\">How can you say that interest rate risk of portfolio with duration of 6.23 and a 30% stock position goes up \u201cdramatically\u201d in a 1% increase? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Interest rate stress tests always and everywhere work with a measure called duration. Finance courses in college start with duration and most sophisticated traders use the same duration concept. Riskalyze interest rate stress test does not even mention duration. Their <a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.aaronklein.com\/post\/102484561496\/get-a-calculator\">original article<\/a> comes to the conclusion that \u201c\u2026that a 1% rise in interest rates has such a dramatic impact on downside risk is often eye-opening.\u201d But we are talking about a portfolio with duration of 6.23. So, if we only talked about the bond position, it would lose 6.23% (and if we account for convexity as we should, it would lose less, because convexity helps whether rates fall or rise). Of course, 6.23% loss doesn\u2019t sound as dramatic as the dubious 70% increase, but it is the simplest and most accurate answer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In addition to 6.23 duration, the portfolio in question contains a 38% stock position (Vanguard Total Stock ETF plus Apple), which will likely go up when rates do (rates and stocks have a fairly strong positive correlation). How can you ignore the correlation between interest rates and stocks when you are performing stress tests? Has this methodology been backtested in any scientific publications?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We have done risk modeling for our whole professional careers. Questioning each other\u2019s math in a public forum is absolutely normal. It benefits the public and even the providers as it forces them to be rigorous. That is, of course, if the discussion is substantive and mature.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does Riskalyze Risk Number really measure? Disclosure\u00a0of calculation and methodology essential for meaningful discussion. Riskalyze has responded to our criticism of the math behind their interest rate stress test. Unfortunately, the response does not address a single point of substance and seems rather personal. 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